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Post by FireangelX on Mon 30 Jun 2008, 9:02 pm

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So, I saw this news report...about a man from Texas, who saw 2 other men, breaking into his neighbors home.

He loads a shot gun, calls 911 and goes out and warns both the robbers..."if you move, I'll shoot to kill".

They moved and he shot while he was on the phone with 911...
He killed them both...as he knew the police would not arrive in time.

They interviewed one of the robbers wife, and she said the man, who shot her husband was wrong and should be held accountable.

I say, what give any human being the idea, that it's ok to rob another person's home and not expect to be shot or arrested and put in prision?

And yanno, I dont' care if they were armed or not...they don't have the right to go into another persons home with the intent to rob them.

wat'd do u think?

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Post by tabooXchanz on Mon 30 Jun 2008, 9:35 pm

yea i think they shouldn't go into someone house but i don't think the guy shudda killed them, he shudda just wounded them
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Post by Snyper on Sun 06 Jul 2008, 12:50 am

The second ammendment still exists, where you are allowed to bear arms (shoot to kill for the protection of personal property).

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Post by tabooXchanz on Sun 06 Jul 2008, 11:42 am

yea but that doesn't mean it's right to do it....I think it's God's job to kill people, the only way you shoot to kill is if someone is trying to kill you and your trying to save your life, but then I still think it's wrong to kill...I mean it's one of the commandments
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Post by Snyper on Sun 06 Jul 2008, 8:37 pm

We all know that its not right to kill (to be specific 'murder'). No one is disputing this.


tabooXchanz wrote:the only way you shoot to kill is if someone is trying to kill you and your trying to save your life
What you are saying has been stated in the second ammendment. It also permits all Americans the right to own a gun (liscensed of course).



tabooXchanz wrote:it's God's job to kill people
This sounds so hilarious (in a twisted way).


I believe that commandment you are speaking about is refering specifically to murder (of another person). Are you saying that we shouldn't 'kill' other murderers (capital punishment) for thier crimes? I think there still is that scripture: "An eye for an eye..."

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Post by tabooXchanz on Sun 06 Jul 2008, 10:46 pm

yea but some things in the old testament Jesus sorta said don't apply any more like the eye for an eye thing and yea I mean though anyone would want someone who killed their loved one or other people dead and I know I probably would, I still don't think it's right, it's God's decision what to do with them and not ours
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Post by Snyper on Sun 06 Jul 2008, 10:54 pm

Did he not also appoint a 'court system' to deal with such issues (including execution in necessary)?

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Post by FireangelX on Sun 06 Jul 2008, 11:39 pm

Sorry, but i agree with Chan on this.

IT STILL MEANS HE COMMITED A CRIME!!!!!!

THE DISPATCHER TOLD HIM NOT TO DO ANYTHING TO GET HIMSELF IN DANGER.

HE BROKE THE LAW N RELIGION LAW. "thou shall not kill"

WHAT I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE DONE IS SHOT THEM ON THE LEG.`bESIDES THESE ARE REDNECKS, THEY DISSPIES ALIENS. I EVEN THINK HE SHOT THEM ON PURPOSE.

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Post by Snyper on Sun 06 Jul 2008, 11:45 pm

I had forgoten about the original postulate. Do you really think he is going to be found 'guilty' (in any case)?


It still is: 'killing a mere mockingbird' in any court.

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Post by Taikenzor on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 4:31 am

Well this interesting Smile. Two men rob a house... neighbour kills them both...

In the eyes of God, it's not the duty of on man to take the life of another... unless order to do so (the wars that the Israelites had with other countries)

The eye for an eye was written in the laws of Moses not God... those laws were used for the judicial system.

So yeah killing is wrong... for policemen... hmm...

Well it's still thou shall not kill so... ok then lol
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Post by Snyper on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 11:51 am

No matter how much we argue about it, this doesn't change whats happened. Your 'Texas man', will always plead 'self-defense' (legal in any case). There are times in which you may have to make that split-second decision in subdue(ing) someone (and for some reason not be able to 'wound' them as Chanz said). I'm not in agreement with killing, but its not al the time that one can make a rationonal decision when placed in special circumstances.

I'm not going to tell you to continue to live in your 'make-believe' world where everything is perfect. The applicable laws vary, by state to state.

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Post by niqui on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 7:19 pm

Imma have to go with snyper on this one. Killing is against Gods commandements BUt so is stealing. Every action has its reaction. Sin has it's punishment. Why is it hard to imagine that their deaths were a swift punishment from the Almighty?
For all we know, those two guys could have been robbing houses for years and that neighbor was simply carrying out God's retribution.
Additionally, I'd like to point that I think what that neighbour did was very brave. He wasn't selfish like some of ppl who turn a blind eye when they see something fishy going down in a neighbour's yard. Those robbers could have been armed and dangerous, but he still went out there.
Plus, we really don't kno if he actually meant to kill those men. In a stressful situation, fingers get jittery on the trigger. Plus its a shot gun which carries alot more wallop than a regular semi-automatic/pistol. Shooting close range with a shot gun would definitely be more fatal than a shooting close range with a semi or pistol.
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Post by niqui on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 7:23 pm

u kno, i jus realise I keep agreeing with snyper on these threads. weird. We need to start disagreeing!!!!
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Post by Snyper on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 7:38 pm

Niqui, I have nothing against (either of) you. I just like debating (I hate accepting the 'normal' school of thought). Yes, we can dis-agree whenever you are ready. lol

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Post by Snyper on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 7:41 pm

niqui wrote:we really don't kno if he actually meant to kill those men. In a stressful situation, fingers get jittery on the trigger. Plus its a shot gun which carries alot more wallop than a regular semi-automatic/pistol.
This will always be open for a debate in court. I don't see why one should punish him for a mere accident.

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Post by tabooXchanz on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 11:47 pm

two wrongs don't make a right...and I think most people would categorize the stealing as less of a bother than loss of your actual life because you were stealing...but it all depends on the dudes motive for shooting the thief in terms of was it self defense or just cus of some other reason that would be construed as frivalous...life is a precious thing, though all the commandments carry the same weighting
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Post by Snyper on Tue 08 Jul 2008, 11:52 pm

tabooXchanz wrote:I think most people would categorize the stealing as less of a bother than loss of your actual life
Sin, is still sin (none more worthy than the other).

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Post by Sykotiq on Wed 09 Jul 2008, 7:37 am

Yea actually, syper is right, the onli sn that is more deadly thsn the other is blasphemy
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Post by Taikenzor on Wed 09 Jul 2008, 12:13 pm

Such is the world then... rules governed by the state... blah... and what do you mean be make believe lol? Huh Snyper? Laughing
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Post by tabooXchanz on Wed 09 Jul 2008, 2:00 pm

lol I kno guys, read my posts properly I actually say that all sins are equal in there...but still two wrongs don't make a right
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Post by Taikenzor on Wed 09 Jul 2008, 5:47 pm

Yes I a sin is a sin... also note... i say the state...
The state of the country or "THE MAN" if you will...
The world is not perfect since it justifies it wrongs...

Make some rules... force the people to follow it. if it compromises there beliefs... throw the book at them...

Elimination... this is the way of evil influence

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Post by Snyper on Wed 09 Jul 2008, 11:29 pm

Taikenzor wrote:what do you mean by make believe?
Taikenzor wrote:The world is not perfect, since it justifies its wrongs
You answered this correctly. No matter how much we debate about this, the result remains the same.

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Post by Taikenzor on Thu 10 Jul 2008, 12:52 pm

Ah awesome!!!
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